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	<title>Comments on: 7th Standard Textbook &#8211; Good,Bad and the holy beast</title>
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		<title>By: angel</title>
		<link>http://tvmtalkies.com/archives/490/comment-page-1#comment-7134</link>
		<dc:creator>angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey nikhil,i like what is your comment.give me a reply about our social text book</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey nikhil,i like what is your comment.give me a reply about our social text book</p>
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		<title>By: BVN</title>
		<link>http://tvmtalkies.com/archives/490/comment-page-1#comment-5323</link>
		<dc:creator>BVN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Nikhil, sorry abt the late Reply, I know one very lean guy giving fiery speeches who went by the same name :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Nikhil, sorry abt the late Reply, I know one very lean guy giving fiery speeches who went by the same name <img src='http://tvmtalkies.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kannan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kannan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Brahma &lt;/i&gt;

For all that I know , the government of a land should be managing the day to day affairs concerning the economy,security and other public service departments - not managing temples. And if it has to, under any circumstance ,then why limit it to one religion?Why not all?

I am sure that all governments , left, right or the BJP would n&#039;t show the guts to seize the  administration of Parumala church or a local madrasa.

Thats where it hurts - minority politics. We know what Antony had to go through for making a bold statement ( the only meaningful thing he ever said in my opinion)

The point I am making here is that for every compromise the government makes (in this case paying the staff) there were other compromises made by other parties , with or without vested interests.

&lt;i&gt; I am not supporting /justifying any of the Hindu Organizations- infact I find them stupid and feel they deserve the deepest sympathies of the politically aware &lt;/i&gt; 

But the truth that some communities (read Christian /Muslim ) still manage to get the slickest deal out of any government disturbs me- be it educational institutions or political say. Its high time  GoK (read LEFT, the only hope) showed the guts to curb these vested interests - &lt;i&gt;that, would be an important break from a past &amp; present filled with minority politics &lt;/i&gt;

While everybody knows what card is being played where and why ,while everybody knows that there is foul play , nobody walks out , nobody stops the game.We turn ourselves into donkeys mentioned in &quot;Pothu Janam Kazhutha&quot;

The sad fact that dialogues with intellectual and ideological clarity are often divorced from ground realities applies here also.
&lt;i&gt;This is the same reason why MN Vijayan did not become a mass leader or why Pinarayi Vijayan became the political warhorse that he is now.&lt;/i&gt;

I am sorry for the digression..I am all with you on the text book issue and I am sure that people will realize  that the Left Govt is right on this 
(at least when the majority attains the ability to think rationally - to quote Kamal)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Brahma </i></p>
<p>For all that I know , the government of a land should be managing the day to day affairs concerning the economy,security and other public service departments &#8211; not managing temples. And if it has to, under any circumstance ,then why limit it to one religion?Why not all?</p>
<p>I am sure that all governments , left, right or the BJP would n&#8217;t show the guts to seize the  administration of Parumala church or a local madrasa.</p>
<p>Thats where it hurts &#8211; minority politics. We know what Antony had to go through for making a bold statement ( the only meaningful thing he ever said in my opinion)</p>
<p>The point I am making here is that for every compromise the government makes (in this case paying the staff) there were other compromises made by other parties , with or without vested interests.</p>
<p><i> I am not supporting /justifying any of the Hindu Organizations- infact I find them stupid and feel they deserve the deepest sympathies of the politically aware </i> </p>
<p>But the truth that some communities (read Christian /Muslim ) still manage to get the slickest deal out of any government disturbs me- be it educational institutions or political say. Its high time  GoK (read LEFT, the only hope) showed the guts to curb these vested interests &#8211; <i>that, would be an important break from a past &amp; present filled with minority politics </i></p>
<p>While everybody knows what card is being played where and why ,while everybody knows that there is foul play , nobody walks out , nobody stops the game.We turn ourselves into donkeys mentioned in &#8220;Pothu Janam Kazhutha&#8221;</p>
<p>The sad fact that dialogues with intellectual and ideological clarity are often divorced from ground realities applies here also.<br />
<i>This is the same reason why MN Vijayan did not become a mass leader or why Pinarayi Vijayan became the political warhorse that he is now.</i></p>
<p>I am sorry for the digression..I am all with you on the text book issue and I am sure that people will realize  that the Left Govt is right on this<br />
(at least when the majority attains the ability to think rationally &#8211; to quote Kamal)</p>
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		<title>By: Nikhil Narayanan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikhil Narayanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brahma,
The commenter Naga: Is he the Loyola--&gt;CET--&gt;PCS(?)--&gt;IRMA Naga?

-Nikhil
PS: Sorry for the off the topic comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brahma,<br />
The commenter Naga: Is he the Loyola&#8211;&gt;CET&#8211;&gt;PCS(?)&#8211;&gt;IRMA Naga?</p>
<p>-Nikhil<br />
PS: Sorry for the off the topic comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Naga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brahma,
You are at your best when you shed your inhibitions; when you come out really in the open on your ideological beliefs. Keep going.

These are the best of times to be in Kerala, I guess. This debate is so gratifying.

I presume that this also provides the left a platform to bury its individual differences and work towards a common cause. (I haven&#039;t heard about a Pinarayi - VS spat for quite some time now??)

Btw, &#039;Mundu uduthaal, Mundasseriyum aakaamalle&#039;?

Cheers,
Naga.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brahma,<br />
You are at your best when you shed your inhibitions; when you come out really in the open on your ideological beliefs. Keep going.</p>
<p>These are the best of times to be in Kerala, I guess. This debate is so gratifying.</p>
<p>I presume that this also provides the left a platform to bury its individual differences and work towards a common cause. (I haven&#8217;t heard about a Pinarayi &#8211; VS spat for quite some time now??)</p>
<p>Btw, &#8216;Mundu uduthaal, Mundasseriyum aakaamalle&#8217;?</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Naga.</p>
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		<title>By: BVN</title>
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		<dc:creator>BVN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kannan, I don&#039;t see that as Hindus paying money to GoK. It is an important break from the feudal past which sustains many small temples in the state. A short visit to Kanyakumari-Nagercoeil belt would show you those dilapidated temples. Thats where Devaswam is important. 

SNDP has its own gains, read it along with the fact that SNDP has the least at stake in leaving appointments to the PSC.

To sum it up, its not really one religion vs another. Its vested interests vs rest of kerala</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kannan, I don&#8217;t see that as Hindus paying money to GoK. It is an important break from the feudal past which sustains many small temples in the state. A short visit to Kanyakumari-Nagercoeil belt would show you those dilapidated temples. Thats where Devaswam is important. </p>
<p>SNDP has its own gains, read it along with the fact that SNDP has the least at stake in leaving appointments to the PSC.</p>
<p>To sum it up, its not really one religion vs another. Its vested interests vs rest of kerala</p>
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		<title>By: BVN</title>
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		<dc:creator>BVN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 06:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenney,

Thank you! and welcome. yeah lets have faith :)

Clash, jumbo? thats a good one!

Nikhil, thanks

Scorpio, we are preaching soverignty as well, do we discuss on martial law in Manipur. Neways, I&#039;m resting my case too :) thank you for the comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenney,</p>
<p>Thank you! and welcome. yeah lets have faith <img src='http://tvmtalkies.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Clash, jumbo? thats a good one!</p>
<p>Nikhil, thanks</p>
<p>Scorpio, we are preaching soverignty as well, do we discuss on martial law in Manipur. Neways, I&#8217;m resting my case too <img src='http://tvmtalkies.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  thank you for the comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Kannan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kannan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why does the Catholic Church, the NSS, the Muslim trusts and SNDP insist that they appoint their own teachers, whom the state government pays with my tax money? &lt;/i&gt;

I can understand why the SNDP, NSS  &amp; other Hindu organizations insist that they appoint their own teachers, after all the Kerala government is collecting &amp; managing money from Hindu temples through the Devasvom Boards, save a few temples directly managed by the SNDP and NSS.Of course the revenue of these cannot be compared to Sabarimala or Guruvayur under the GoK.

What I would suggest is that the Government seize the adminstration of Christian as well as Muslim religious institutions and create Christian/Muslim Devasvom boards - that would make more sense.Why should only the Hindus pay their money to GoK?
The left and right have been silent on this issue.

&lt;i&gt;Addendum.. &lt;/i&gt;

On the text book and other socio-political issues, I would say that putting SNDP along with NSS , Christian and Muslim associations in the same bracket is wrong as they were the only organization to support the text book and welcome &amp; support the government&#039;s decision.
The SNDP also recently announced that its ready to give up its religious institutions to the government and also ready to appoint staff to its educational institutions through the PSC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why does the Catholic Church, the NSS, the Muslim trusts and SNDP insist that they appoint their own teachers, whom the state government pays with my tax money? </i></p>
<p>I can understand why the SNDP, NSS  &amp; other Hindu organizations insist that they appoint their own teachers, after all the Kerala government is collecting &amp; managing money from Hindu temples through the Devasvom Boards, save a few temples directly managed by the SNDP and NSS.Of course the revenue of these cannot be compared to Sabarimala or Guruvayur under the GoK.</p>
<p>What I would suggest is that the Government seize the adminstration of Christian as well as Muslim religious institutions and create Christian/Muslim Devasvom boards &#8211; that would make more sense.Why should only the Hindus pay their money to GoK?<br />
The left and right have been silent on this issue.</p>
<p><i>Addendum.. </i></p>
<p>On the text book and other socio-political issues, I would say that putting SNDP along with NSS , Christian and Muslim associations in the same bracket is wrong as they were the only organization to support the text book and welcome &amp; support the government&#8217;s decision.<br />
The SNDP also recently announced that its ready to give up its religious institutions to the government and also ready to appoint staff to its educational institutions through the PSC.</p>
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		<title>By: scorpiogenius</title>
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		<dc:creator>scorpiogenius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BVN, good marathon post..Well written.

But isn&#039;t there a difference between Socialism &amp; Communism?? Teaching socialism or Communism isn&#039;t bad, in fact the youth must be enlightened about the movements and uprisings of the working class in the past.  What has happened here is &#039;preaching&#039; communism, in a well disguised way. 

Yeah, you are right, the idea the kids will get will depend on how the teacher is going to interpret it. 

So no more arguments..I&#039;m resting my case. If its all for the good of the society, well then let there be peace.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BVN, good marathon post..Well written.</p>
<p>But isn&#8217;t there a difference between Socialism &amp; Communism?? Teaching socialism or Communism isn&#8217;t bad, in fact the youth must be enlightened about the movements and uprisings of the working class in the past.  What has happened here is &#8216;preaching&#8217; communism, in a well disguised way. </p>
<p>Yeah, you are right, the idea the kids will get will depend on how the teacher is going to interpret it. </p>
<p>So no more arguments..I&#8217;m resting my case. If its all for the good of the society, well then let there be peace.:)</p>
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		<title>By: Nikhil Narayanan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikhil Narayanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brahma

Well said. I have nothing to say.
-Nikhil

PS:May read again and comment later</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brahma</p>
<p>Well said. I have nothing to say.<br />
-Nikhil</p>
<p>PS:May read again and comment later</p>
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