what have you done ?
No it doesnt matter that Vatican apologized and then your holy self said ‘sorry’ – what is needed is a complete apology by the Byzantine king and if possible by Constantine himself .
They are dead by now ? ok, then can we have miracles….see , Paleologus will have to come in person and apologize for what he said in 1391….arrange for a miracle or two
And…make it fast…we’ll check with the mullahs if that will do…..
How could you ever quote or even think that mullahs have a culture of violence….thats pig shit…which is blasphemy….and its completely outrageous….they dont have a culture of violence and thats it !!
And until you and Paleologus withdraw the culture of violence statement – they’ll burn those churches in Palestine , shoot Nuns in Mogadishu, fire AK-47s into air all across the Arab world, detonate a few suicide bombs in Tel Aviv, burn effigies in Karachi and Rawalpindi , kill a few serbs in Kosovo, loot a few shops in Yemen, down a few planes and bomb a few trains in Europe, have a few rallies in Washington, stone a few shops in Hyderabad , rape a few girls in Darfur , plant a few gas bombs in Chechnya and come friday will burn the streets from Cairo to Tehran to Dhaka to Jakarta.
You must be out of your mind to talk about a culture of violence, there isn’t one your holiness.
Oh c’mon you must be kidding – there isnt a thing called free speech – I’ll give you one Danish cartoonist’s number – whole of Europe is local call rite ,neways check with him.
Culture of forgiveness…nah nah…they never say sorry for anything they do and your sorry doesnt mean anything to them – the only time they feel sorry is when a cluster bomb bursts right up in their ass.
Now now…lets not waste time sir…lets get to work on that miracle !!
There is something I always wonder, Judaism, Islam and Chrostianity share the same religious scriptures. (The Old Testament). Nothing else might have caused so many lives so far !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Btw, I have heard from reliable sources that Laden is planning for “blog bombs”. There is also a rumour that Pope has a secret army too. Better watch out ;)))))))
~ Me (of course, who else comes here so religiously?)
hi,
the Pope’s comment has provouged so much cntroversies around the world..but its wrong to associate Islam with voilence as no religion thought to be so…
lets wait for some miracle to happen..
have a great day..
hi dear,
its pathetic to raise doubt on any religion..being sorry is not the solution…the thing is that why do people make comments that can create such controversies…
whts your point?
that there is a ‘they’ and an ‘us’ that they are violent…
dont agree with this tone…
violence anywhere is to be condemned.. and whether the pope saying ‘sorry’ was necessary or not, making a public statement based on religion is not the best way… and please why spread the hatred any case ?
Me, oh yeah,nowadays i recognize your hand writing (so just leave the comment) :-))
i have raised my threat level to orange,now that you have warned 🙂
tanushree, Islam or christianity is not the topic here,its the bigots in these religions
vibhor, choice is this – a controversial pope or a hypocrite pope. Yes its true he messed up but the reactions to his comments kinda strengthens his views.
bombay dosti,
Islam is the most respectable of all religions if you look at the way of life it provides (even care for women).It is a religion that stands for peace and brotherhood – a non-discriminatory religion of peace, torn by power, under one God, known to Muslims as Allah.I dont just tolerate Islam but I respect it,genuinely.
Thats not the point here. I’m against these radical drumbeaters who are hijacking the popular voice in the religion. Every peace process is derailed by them – year after year – they play into the hands of the vested capitalist interests of the west. The moderate and reformist voices of wisdom are silenced everywhere by these zealots.
If there needs to be peace in this world – these bigots will have to be defeated and serenity needs to be restored to the politics of religion. Our silence,silence of wise people in these religions is what aids these hijackers. Sure there are frustrations,but this non-stop-anger and atmosphere of fear created by these so-called-radicals will make the rest of the world more prejudiced and ‘misunderstanding’ of the beautiful concept of islam.
I’m not spreading any hate here. Its the mentality to ‘just hate’ that needs to be addressed,remaining silent doesn’t help anyone – silence is a sinful abdication when speech is a solemn obligation
and funny part is the irony of instigating violence all across the world to prove that ‘they’ are non-violent.
‘they’ and ‘us’ are there – let that be very clear.I’m not one of ‘them’.
good post man, and i already see a lot of people misunderstand and be wary of its irreverent tone…but u made ur point well!
the problem here is there are many muslims who take their religion too seriously and are very sensitive about it, while people of other religions really dont care too much about their religion!
the pope really was dumb to be talking all that when the world is so fractured right now…neways pathetic to see such a powerful man with his foot stuck in the mouth…but i wonder if what he said was deliberate and meant to provoke and he saw all this coming! eitherways i really dont like this pope.
i thought about your post and this thing struck me…until 1991 and cold war ended things were okay, the US failure to dislodge saddam then and their prolonged stay and increasing influence in the arab principalities is i think where all this extremism really boiled out over the surface! what do u say?
Jiby, we must remember that Pope had condemned the violence in Lebanon just a month back in no unsure terms. Buoyed by that sentiment he could have done a lot more engagement which now is an oppurtunity missed.(yes,he messed up)
As you correctly said – it is this intolerant overtones of radical islam that i’m uncomfortable with. Its like if anyone makes a comment about that religion – they are doomed. They want to create an atmosphere of fear BUT we are also not descendant from fearful men.
The leader of 1.1 billion people has apologized to them three times now – no other pope has done that – still they wanna burn cities ? The actual spiritual leaders of islam have accepted the apology but the zealots are still thirsty for blood.more than religion,they want religious conflict i suppose.
Yup, post cold war mess up by the US and allies have a lot to do with the current crisis and i think saudi and pakistan will be the flash points in years to come.We often worry about US presence in the mid-east , what if they werent there ? – it would have been another west Africa for sure.
being politically correct may be popular,but it sucks big time :))))
Interesting post, well-written!
Ouch!! The travails of having a holy tongue!!
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splendid!! this was really well put! i am impressed with the “junta” ! 🙂
It happens! 🙂
All for a reason.
Ash, thank you 🙂
Velu, pavam Pope 🙁
Neers, ‘junta’ appreciates it:)
Alex, was that economics or theology, both ways its true…for a *reason* 🙂